O&O Defrag V11 Defrag Time Question

[WebbPA]

Fine.

Enjoy watching your computer do nothing for three hours.

At least you only have to do it every month or so.

oh please

its comments like this that tell me when people have no clue about how a computer and storage system works.

You are going to try and tell someone who worked with Raytheon on the Lunar Module computer and systems for the space shuttle how to do it better?

This is the internet.  No one cares about the letters behind your name.

You probably haven't noticed but computer systems have changed since the 1969 Lunar Module computer.

It takes my computer less than a minute to defragment two hard drives.  It takes yours three hours.  That's what counts.

Welcome to 2009.

Why am I even in this idiotic discussion?  All anyone has done is tell the original poster that it's normal to expect to take 3 hours to defragment a hard drive.  So, fine, it takes 3 hours.  I'm out.

[jwenham]

Fine.

Enjoy watching your computer do nothing for three hours.

At least you only have to do it every month or so.

oh please

its comments like this that tell me when people have no clue about how a computer and storage system works.

You are going to try and tell someone who worked with Raytheon on the Lunar Module computer and systems for the space shuttle how to do it better?

This is the internet.

[NickN]

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You probably haven't noticed but computer systems have changed since the 1969 Lunar Module computer.

It takes my computer less than a minute to defragment two hard drives.

[WebbPA]

Please continue to feel superior as you watch your computers do nothing for three hours once a month every month.

[idahosurge]

You are discovering ONE of the major reasons why I tell people to NOT install MSFS into the OS

Your OS drive is CONSTANTLY writing data to the drive which changes the NAME layout

1 file changed and it starts from the beginning.

Your OS only need be cleaned and defragged about once every 3 months ...once a month if you install a bunch of programs or do a lot of work with installed applications.

The MSFS drive will remain very clean and does not expand and contract with OS writes and therefore it remains in order unless you install a good size addon. If you do not install anything and do not constantly make changes to MSFS through addons that send textures/files to MSFS then that drive should remain defragmented pretty much forever.  

So Nick, are you saying that even though the only thing that I do between a defrag on my OS drive is that I reboot, the OS defrag starts from scratch because files were rewritten in the reboot process and this is just the way that it works.  If this is the answer then I am fine with that, I was just wondering why.

Rod

[NickN]

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You are discovering ONE of the major reasons why I tell people to NOT install MSFS into the OS

Your OS drive is CONSTANTLY writing data to the drive which changes the NAME layout

1 file changed and it starts from the beginning.

Your OS only need be cleaned and defragged about once every 3 months ...once a month if you install a bunch of programs or do a lot of work with installed applications.

The MSFS drive will remain very clean and does not expand and contract with OS writes and therefore it remains in order unless you install a good size addon. If you do not install anything and do not constantly make changes to MSFS through addons that send textures/files to MSFS then that drive should remain defragmented pretty much forever.

[JHA]

Interesting read, thanks...

I'm a bit confused about the terms "drive" and "partition" (English is not my native language...)

If I may quote from another forum:


Quote:

"And Be aware.. use of another partition on the same drive as the OS is a NO NO!

FSX to its own drive!

If you absolutely must partition your OS or FSX drive make SURE the OS and FSX are on the FIRST PHYSICAL PARTITION of those drives, AND, make sure that after everything is installed there is AT LEAST 50% freespace left so leave room to add. More freespace is better than less! Once you hit 40-30%% its all downhill from there on storage performance

I suggest NO partitions if possible however I know that can be difficult for some so make sure the OS and FSX are located on the first physical partition of each drive and have enough free space left in those partitions."

Unquote



I reinstalled my OS on Local Disk C - together with FSX, because of the advise mentioned above...

The C disk is at 270 G, I have a D disk at 100 G, and a E disk at 100 G as a storage place...

My questions:

Is this 1 or 3 harddrives, or is it 3 partitions and 1 drive???

Stupid question maybe, BUT I REALLY DON'T KNOW!

Any suggestions? Put FSX back on D where it came from???

BTW - I've experienced that O & O v 11 after a couple of defrags simply won't start again, (not possible to start from services, "no path"...)

[NickN]

DRIVE is a physical disk unit

PARTITION is what must be placed on ANY physical drive for Windows to read it.

You can have one partition on each physical drive and it will appear in Windows as different drives

HOWEVER

A single DRIVE can have MANY partitions and appear in Windows like many physical drives..

[JHA]

Hi, thanks for quick reply...

Yes, it's one harddisk (475 G) - with 3 partitions then.

I'll go ahead an install like you recommend.

Don't have the bucks for a new machine yet

JHA