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Airspace Training

Postby LU_Skyhawk » Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:15 pm

Hi everyone.
I'm a supplemental instructor for private pilot ground school at a university. I'm looking for airspace training aids. I'm wondering if there is a way I can get airspace to be displayed inside FS2004 or 2002. I would like the students to be able to slew around an area and see how the airspace changes. Can I make terrain or objects shaped like an airspace block? Is there a way to use cloud layers to do the same thing?
Any help with FS or any other training aids would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Airspace Training

Postby wji » Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:16 pm

Not that I'm aware of . . . FS9 Learning Center has an Understanding airspace.htm document and we're all familiar with the wedding cake analogy:

"The configuration of each Class B airspace area is individually tailored and consists of a surface area and two or more layers (some Class B airspace areas resemble upside-down wedding cakes), and is designed to contain all published instrument procedures once an aircraft enters the airspace."

If FS9 is installed to the default folder, one can read about it in the LearningCenter\AirTrafficControl\UnderstandingAirspace.htm, but there's no way to replicate it visually in FS9.
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Re: Airspace Training

Postby C » Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:55 am

I imagine it could be done. Just Flight released a freeware scenery last year which they developed for the British aerobatic team which was an aerobatic venue (Kaunas) with the associated aerobatic "box" marked in the sky. I imagine using the same techniques airspace could be represented in a similar 3D form.

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Re: Airspace Training

Postby LU_Skyhawk » Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:45 pm

Thanks for the input. I tried creating scenery objects for the airspace. (first time I've every played with scenery) I created a class D cylinder around seattle-tacoma as a test. It displays properly but it disappears until you are fairly close to it. I assume this is because flight does not draw scenery objects beyond a set distance. However, I want to see the airspace up to 50 miles away. How do get flight sim to display my object at a greater distance?


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Re: Airspace Training

Postby Fly2e » Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:09 pm

Very Cool Mathew!

Your answers would best be answered here!!

Oh John.........................  8)



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Re: Airspace Training

Postby Midnight_LS1 » Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:08 pm

Thanks for the input. I tried creating scenery objects for the airspace. (first time I've every played with scenery) I created a class D cylinder around seattle-tacoma as a test. It displays properly but it disappears until you are fairly close to it. I assume this is because flight does not draw scenery objects beyond a set distance. However, I want to see the airspace up to 50 miles away. How do get flight sim to display my object at a greater distance?

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Did you try maxing out all the settings for the scenery and sight distance?
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Re: Airspace Training

Postby JBaymore » Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:15 pm

I created a class D cylinder around seattle-tacoma as a test. It displays properly but it disappears until you are fairly close to it. I assume this is because flight does not draw scenery objects beyond a set distance. However, I want to see the airspace up to 50 miles away. How do get flight sim to display my object at a greater distance?



Matthew,

I actually think this thread might fit better in "Scenery and Panel Design" to get a solid answer or two... since this is really a basic flightsim software issue.  "Homebuilt Cockpits" isn't exactly where this concept fits in...... but maybe real flight simulators as a topic fits here more closely than elsewhare.... except maybe "Real Avaiation".

That being said...... and with my knowledge of scenery design being able to be written on the head of a pin with room for "War and Peace" added in...........

It seems to me that you can SET the visibility distance for a scenery object.  Usually this is set close in to minimize the impact on frame rates of keeping track of all those polygons at long distances.

So maybe you can just take the idea you have.... which sounds straightforward enough....... and alrer the property that "tells" the sim how long to make the object visable?

Anyone else got suggestions?

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Re: Airspace Training

Postby LU_Skyhawk » Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:06 am

That's what I was thinking. I don't know where to find such a setting though.
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Re: Airspace Training

Postby JBaymore » Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:14 am

I seem to remember that in the scenery design program that I have used on the rare occasion I have played with it....... FSSC..... that there is a small box to enter the visible distance into.
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