The Eagle has landed

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Re: The Eagle has landed

Postby WebbPA » Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:40 pm

Just to clarify, I meant Apollo 11's first EVA.  Not THE first EVA.

Regardless of Soviet EVA's, which I do not deny, Ed White's (to the best of my recollection) during the Gemini program, was well documented, as the American space program tended to show both failures and successes.
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Re: The Eagle has landed

Postby RichieB16 » Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:56 pm

This is fascinating stuff Richie. I respect your great knowledge on the subject have no reason to doubt what you say. I've searched the web but can't find any reference to this fake video. Can you give me a reference?

I've been looking for the reference ever since I said that because I figured someone would want to know where I got it.  I remember I used it in a paper I wrote for a space history class I took last year (it was in my term paper).  I found a book about early Sovet missions.  Unfortunately, I can't seem to locate the paper (which has a works cited page on it).  I'm going to keep looking for it and if I find I'll get back to you.  I remember being suprised when I read it, but it gave all the reasons why it couldn't be real-it was really interesting.
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Re: The Eagle has landed

Postby Hagar » Thu Jul 22, 2004 2:46 am

I remember being suprised when I read it, but it gave all the reasons why it couldn't be real-it was really interesting.

Thanks Richie. I would like to see it. I think you have to be careful here. If this is a single reference source not backed up by others I would treat it with suspicion & ask myself about the author's motives & credibility. If there's any truth to it I'm surprised this hasn't been more widely publicised & discussed elsewhere. I could show you many books & articles "proving" all the old conspiracy theories about the NASA moon shots. I'm sure you've seen these many times yourself. Some are very convincing arguments indeed. There's just as many, if not more, debunking these theories. Some of the latter are emotional responses not based on any real evidence & sound less convincing to the impartial observer. If you're prepared to find fault with one argument you must also do the same for the other side when the positions are reversed.

It's always more difficult finding the truth when any historical event is partly shrouded in secrecy & misinformation for whatever reasons. You have to look at all the available "evidence" & make up your own mind. Sometimes the truth will eventually come out many decades after the event when official government documents are declassified. This might be completely different to what everyone believed at the time & for many years afterwards. The truth is often stranger than any fiction as I've found out myself. Much of what I once believed (& was even taught at school) about history & science has been disproven during my lifetime. This is sometimes very difficult to accept.
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