Newark-Singapore...non stop!

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Newark-Singapore...non stop!

Postby musicflyer2 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:14 pm

Hello all,

A few weeks ago there was a forum thread where someone asked in anyone would willing to fly what was until just recently the world's longest flight. Newark-Singapore on a Singapore airlines Airbus A340-541. We would have to fly the whole thing in one sitting without pausing and coming back etc. I am proud to say I have done that! I spent 18 hours, 25 minutes, 52 seconds flying the longest flight in the world. I stayed up all night long (still can't remember when I started!) and I finished at 6:30 this morning! I have spent all day sleeping. I took several pictures but I can't figure out how to upload them! Can anyone offer any help? All of them came out as .BMP files.

I set a new personal record shattering my old record of 12 hours of continuous flying.

I elected to take a very polar route. Literally went right over the north pole. Didn't go over Alaska or anything. Up over Eastern Canada, Then a tad bit of Greenland. After that the Polar Ice Cap. Then Siberia, Mongolia, China, Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia. Then Malaysia and FINALLY! Singapore!

As soon as I figure out how to get the pics uploaded (about 27 in all but not all of them have to be uploaded) I will upload them.

Merry Christmas!
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Re: Newark-Singapore...non stop!

Postby CrashII » Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:30 pm

Well done.

18 hours on autopilot.

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Re: Newark-Singapore...non stop!

Postby Steve M » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:34 pm

Hagar (Doug) did a nice tut on BD Sizer. It's in the old forum. http://forums.simviation.com//cgi-bin/y ... 1269110775
My longest 'sit there and fly' was 9 hrs. Chicago to London England in a 747. Congrats on your flight, quite amazing.

PS: Those old links don't work anymore.. I found this but check it over carefully as I haven't tried this one yet. http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia ... izer.shtml
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Re: Newark-Singapore...non stop!

Postby Speed of flight » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:13 pm

Is this the world's longest active route? I only ask, because when I booked this route in the sim, it's 8500+- NM or something.

I'm only assuming then that this is the longest active route flown by an airline? Because if Newark NJ->Singapore (this is what you're saying, right?) then it can only be longer if flown from KMIA (Miami Intl).

After planning KMIA->WIPP in Indonesia, the sim says it's 9395.7 NM, and 19 hours. Additionally, KMIA is significantly higher latitude than somewhere more Caribbean, like TNCM. However, the closer to the equator you start and finish, I think you'll tend to go more across rather than polar.

If you like a good polar route, try KSEA (SeaTac Intl) to OMDB (Dubai Intl). Its 13 hours, and almost dead north over the pole. It's as close as I can reason. Also, FlyTampa makes an AWESOME Dubai scenery package. Tough on graphics cards, but great on the visuals.

Since the earth is a complex ball of destinations as it pertains to flying, it's really not just as simple as saying the longest route is half of the circumference, although that would still be 12,500 miles, and near 24+ hours of flying. It still seems that the Earth's ability to fling about popular destinations still exceeds our ability to get there non-stop. Maybe that will be a problem the next generation of aviation enthusiasts and engineers will get to tackle.

Good work on your flight, though. I flew multiplayer in formation with a C-5 a few years ago, all stick, for 12+ hours. That was long enough for me. 2 kids and a wife would never let me do that again, and that's a promise.

Anybody get a good look at that Boeing "Blended-wing" project? It's being dubbed the "797", although I'm sure that Boeing didn't coin it. Maybe a 800+ pax and 10,000 nm range behemoth!

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Re: Newark-Singapore...non stop!

Postby OldAirmail » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:14 pm

This is the post that I made a while back.

It was based on the story in the link at the top.

OldAirmail wrote:Singapore 21: a farewell trip on the world's longest flight

" For a few more hours, however, Singapore Airlines' decade-long run from Newark, N.J. to Singapore remains the record holder for both time (more than 18 hours) and distance (9,534 miles)."


Is there anyone willing to fly that flight: from Newark, N.J. to Singapore? For 18 REAL hours, CONTINUOUS?

Time off for bathroom breaks and meals- but you must use the autopilot. NO time acceleration! NO nappy naps. CONTINUOUS.

A very nice Airbus A340-500 and Singapore Airlines textures are available here.



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Re: Newark-Singapore...non stop!

Postby OldAirmail » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:18 pm

Impressive, and far better than I could have done. :clap:

The program that I use to crop, resize, & convert image files is called PhotoFiltre.

This program will do FAR more than I'll ever want to do. And aside from being easy to use it's also FREE.

Nice word there, FREE. :D

I have to eat dinner now. But if no one has shown you how to post pictures on SimViation by the time I'm done, I will.


By the way - did you use the Singapore Airlines Airbus A340-500?
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Re: Newark-Singapore...non stop!

Postby Speed of flight » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:17 pm

Well that's some distance, I say. After skimming over the wiki page about this particular flight, I must say, one can't rely on the IFR direct button in FSX only. One would need to use some loran or vortac navigation to really do what these pilots were doing. 9500+ miles, and a great circle route.

Over this distance, there are special things to consider that one may not have otherwise. For example, what if someone dies? According to Wiki, the aircraft was outfitted with special "lockers" for bodies should anyone expire on board. Holy moly!

Anyone feel like sitting down for 18 hours? Man, that's a long flight. What of how much food to have on board? What about the Coriolis effect? The prevailing winds are taken into account. What about if you're going to avoid IMC? Steer out of the way of a jymungahumous thunderstorm? Good luck.

It sounds to me like this particular flight would challenge all of a pilots navigational and mechanical expertise to accomplish with any level of comfort.

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Re: Newark-Singapore...non stop!

Postby OldAirmail » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:48 pm

This was the info that I came up with for the flight.

Here's an interesting little site Great Circle Mapper



OldAirmail wrote:OK. That's a go for Singapore Airlines Flight 21. Depart when you can.

Newark Liberty International Airport is IATA: EWR / ICAO: KEWR

Singapore Changi Airport is IATA: SIN / ICAO: WSSS


You'll need to download the Airbus A340-500 and Singapore Airlines textures available here.

I'm assuming that you know how to load the fuel in FSX. The flight required 222,000 liters of fuel. Truthfully, I haven't checked it the FSX aircraft will hold that amount. Let us know, will you?


Now THIS LINK was made for you (and me, and many others :D )

Punch in the codes for the two airports and you'll get this;

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Don't forget to post some pictures. :D
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Re: Newark-Singapore...non stop!

Postby musicflyer2 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:32 pm

Hey guys,

I realize I might not have been exact. I just put the info in and went with it. This was the longest commercial flight in the world until recently they stopped it. Now the longest one is...melbourne to Houston I'm pretty sure. This is measured by Nautical miles I am pretty sure.

I kept in mind that I am not a pilot and this is not an airplane. I am a simmer and this is FSX. We can get away with a few things ;).

I am never doing anything like it again. Nothing that long non stop.
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Re: Newark-Singapore...non stop!

Postby Bluenarrow » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:00 pm

BRAVO musicflyer2, well done :clap: :clap: :lol:
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Re: Newark-Singapore...non stop!

Postby OldAirmail » Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:47 pm

musicflyer2 wrote:Hey guys,

I realize I might not have been exact. I just put the info in and went with it. This was the longest commercial flight in the world until recently they stopped it. Now the longest one is...melbourne to Houston I'm pretty sure. This is measured by Nautical miles I am pretty sure.

I kept in mind that I am not a pilot and this is not an airplane. I am a simmer and this is FSX. We can get away with a few things ;).

I am never doing anything like it again. Nothing that long non stop.

Congrats for that realization. Some people get anal about stupid stuff like that (fortunately not too often on SimViation).



"I am never doing anything like it again. Nothing that long non stop.[/"

But it's fun to be able to say that you have done something like that once. :clap: :D

Welcome to the club.



Don't forget to post those pictures. PhotoFiltre should help a lot.

Most of what I do with it is to crop & resize the pictures.


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Most of the choices below are made by right clicking on the image.

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PS - If you need a screen capture program try the free version of Gadwin PrintScreen.

You'll want to change the save location, probably to the desktop, and the save format from BMP to JPG.

Another useful change is to select "Rectangular Area" so that it's easier to select the screen area for the initial crop.

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Have you figured out how to post a picture yet?

If not click on quote. You'll then see how we do it.

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Re: Newark-Singapore...non stop!

Postby Speed of flight » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:31 am

musicflyer2 wrote:I realize I might not have been exact. I just put the info in and went with it. This was the longest commercial flight in the world until recently they stopped it. Now the longest one is...melbourne to Houston I'm pretty sure. This is measured by Nautical miles I am pretty sure.

I kept in mind that I am not a pilot and this is not an airplane. I am a simmer and this is FSX. We can get away with a few things ;).


We certainly can! I hope that wasn't directed at me, but I'm the most likely candidate for the jackass factor. If it was, then I surely came across incorrectly, and allow me to clarify:

I have wondered for a long time now about how long a flight I could make in FSX with the aircraft I have. I've never flown that route. The flight plan section of my sim is chock full of 8500+ NM routes. When I punched it up in the sim, and hit the ol' trusty "find route" button, the thing routed the plan somewhat near the pole, but at only 8500+ or something NM. After reading up on this route, they accounted for things that the sim may not, and that route is over 9500 NM long, at least according to Wiki.

That is quite an accomplishment, and had never read about the actual "longest route in the world" before. Good work!

Now, maybe someone will make a really high quality 787, and we can fly around the world the long way...
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